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Mercedes-Benz A klasė

QUOTE(maddox @ 2006 07 18, 12:06)
что А-класс может просто-напросто перевернуться на дороге! Однако покупателей подержанных «ашек» это не должно пугать.   thumbup.gif

„Mercedes-Benz" A-klasė jau laimėjo didelį automobilių pirkėjų pripažinimą – per septynerius metus jie nupirko per 1,1 milijono mažųjų „Mercedes".


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На самом деле водители в итоге оказались в выигрыше. После того как А-класс провалил так называемый лосиный тест, инженеры «Mercedes-Benz» серьезно доработали ходовую часть и, самое главное, оснастили все без исключения машины системой стабилизации ESP. И при этом никаких дополнительных денег за нее с покупателей не брали (между прочим, ранее заказ ESP на А-класс стоил почти $1000).


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Cia pasisakymai vartotoju, kurie naudojosi 1998 m. A kl. gamybos mersiukais:

Apie Mercedes 1998 m. A kl. 140, vienas is vartotoju teigia:

What things have gone wrong with the car?
Absolutely nothing!

General comments?This is the best car I have ever owned. No complaints at all. Sure, all cars have their strengths and weaknesses (including the A Class) however, as an overall package, an excellent car and a pleasure to drive and own.

1998 Mercedes-Benz A-Class 160ACS Elegance:

What things have gone wrong with the car?One week in to ownership and the rear suspension needed rebuilding to stop knocking as indeed it did again after 6 months.
A month in and the steering mechanism needed rebuilding to stop wandering and knocking. The main dealer required three attempts to center the steering wheel.
It's been back to Mercedes to cure a shifting driver's seat countless times and had two new seat frames fitted.
I got the car back from a minor (should have been a major one) service (£180 for oil, filter & plugs 1.5hrs at £70p/hr in rural N Wales!) with a new splutter fault, which required another trip to the dealer and a new engine management chip.
Cabin rattles and squeaks too numerous to list.
This car spent a total of over 6 weeks at the dealership being repaired in a 9 month period.

General comments?
Expect 35mpg.
Good acceleration.
Excellent handling, but ride is harsh and requires your full attention, highly susceptible to cross winds.
Tyres wear quickly and are low profile and expensive.
Extremely poor dealership/customer relations resulting in p/ex for a Ford and a £2000 loss on a £10000 used car in 9 months.
My advice to potential buyers - don't buy a baby Benz, they're a pain made worse by arrogant and indifferent dealership customer relations for those not spending enough.

1998 Mercedes-Benz A-Class Elegance "A stylish, practical, Mercedes wannabe"
What things have gone wrong with the car?I started to notice a cracking noise from the rear end about 2-3 months after buying the car and assumed it was the spare wheel working loose as the noise only happened on corners or over bumps. After 8 months of hearing this intermittent noise I decided to get a mechanics opinion. An idependent mechanic immediately pointed out it was the rear radius arms on both wheels. The wheels were effectively loose and could be moved about 1/2 inch overall. He recommended both radius arms be replaced and stated that every A-class he has seen has this problem. I took it to a MB dealer since being an approved used MB its warranty was still in effect. I asked for the radius arms to be replaced. MB only replaced the wheel bearings, this has stopped the noise, but only time will tell.

Another problem is the way the car accelerates. Being a clutchless system there is a lag when moderate to hard accelerating. On pressing the accelerator pedal the revs shoot up to about 4500, the car doesn't accelerate until about 1-2 seconds later when the drive system engages and the revs drop. This can be quite annoying when wanting to overtake another vehicle quickly. The MB dealer says it is "normal" for this clutchless system.

General comments?Overall I believe this was a good buy as I do a lot of miles and hate using clutches in traffic jams. So far, on long motorway driving, I get 60 mpg and about town 47 at the worst. Cheap to insure and tax, comfortable ride, unless on a poor road surface then the wide front tires will dictate which direction you go. Good power steering, very solid and controllable. Tyres don't have much grip in the wet, but they can be changed. Handling is good for the type of car it is (i.e. its no sports car).

Compared to a Renault Clio that I rented prior to buying this, the A-class is far better for long distance driving and more comfortable, and a second hand A-class is cheaper than a new Clio. New A-classes are not worth the money, only buy used, only depreciation will create value for money.

1998 Mercedes-Benz A-Class Elegance
Damn good try at a genuinely new approach, but wait for the 2005 model"

What things have gone wrong with the car?
Creaking dashboard and seats.

Rear trailing arms replaced under warranty.

Front discs squeaking horribly (new discs cured)

Paint is very vulnerable to scratches.

General comments?
Incredibly practical car (excepting its 11 foot long) when all the seats come out.

Not however a blast to drive - nippy, yes, but steering is a let down; woolly and under geared.

Ride on poor surfaces is frankly terrible.

Kiek skaiciau komentaru, o ju daug, bet niekas nerase, kad jie buvo apsiverte.



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QUOTE(Alioshka @ 2006 07 18, 08:14)
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На самом деле водители в итоге оказались в выигрыше. После того как А-класс провалил так называемый лосиный тест, инженеры «Mercedes-Benz» серьезно доработали ходовую часть и, самое главное, оснастили все без исключения машины системой стабилизации ESP. И при этом никаких дополнительных денег за нее с покупателей не брали (между прочим, ранее заказ ESP на А-класс стоил почти $1000).


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Radau Mercedes - Benz A class saugumo testa:

Senesnio modelio:

Despite its one-of-a-kind styling and compact size (it occupies less road space than most superminis, even though it offers cabin space to rival family cars) the A-class performed well. Frontal-impact protection was good but more could be done to safeguard front occupant’s legs. Passengers sit higher than is usual and this helps if the A-class is hit from the side. However, the struck-side front and rear doors opened in the side impact. This would have meant failure in the new side-impact regulations if the car had been introduced after October 1998.

In the original test, the Mercedes A-class had side airbags: Mercedes had said that they were fitted as standard in all EU markets. The test car was purchased in the Netherlands, where side airbags are standard. Subsequently the A-class was found to be available in Portugal, Spain, France, and Ireland without these airbags. When Mercedes were challenged, they explained that they had made a mistake and they paid for a re-test. This has shown that the first result was too high by 0.14 of one point. The car retains its four-star rating. The re-test also showed that modifications to prevent the doors opening were successful. These changes were introduced from VIN WDB 168 J210000.

Frontal Impact The driver’s head was well protected, although the airbag 'bottomed out' late in the impact, and the passenger’s airbag worked well. While the driver’s knees did not contact any part of the car that presented particular risks, a driver with longer legs or anyone sitting in a different position could have been injured. The degree of crash intrusion into the passenger compartment was well controlled.

Side Impact Protection for the driver was good even though the side airbag contributed little or nothing and the latches of two doors were activated by the impact, causing them to open. Many A-class models (but not the test car) lock their doors automatically on reaching 8kmh (5mph) and Mercedes says this feature should prevent the doors coming open during a crash. The company says it is modifying the doors to correct this problem.

Child Protection A passenger airbag is standard and there is a real danger of death for any child if placed in a rear-facing restraint on the front seat. Euro NCAP believes that Mercedes should take this risk more seriously and provide better permanent warnings. The child restraints were compatible with the rear adult belts that, unusually, had pyrotechnic pre-tensioners fitted. But disappointingly, the centre rear seat had only a lap belt many new models now provide a full three-point belt. The restraints prevented the child dummies from being thrown too far forward in the frontal impact and the degree of force they experienced was acceptable. But, the three-year-old was exposed to an increased risk of head injury in the side impact.

Pedestrian Protection The A-class has a very short bonnet so the most likely contact points for an adult’s head are on its windscreen and screen pillars. Because Euro NCAP’s assessment system does not account for glazed areas, the A-class cannot be given a star rating at present. However, a windscreen usually gives better protection than a steel panel would and this should favour its score when a rating is possible. That said, its bonnet proved very unforgiving towards a child’s head. The car’s front also had little or no cushioning for an adult’s legs and needless injury could result.

Model History & Safety Equipment of Car Tested The Mercedes-Benz A-class was launched in October 1997. The 1999 model-year car (car tested) comes with twin front and side (thorax) airbags, front and rear (outboard) seat belt pre-tensioners, belt load limiters, and power steering as standard equipment across all EU markets.

Naujesnio modelio:

The new A-Class performed strongly to gain five stars for adult occupant protection. Its passenger cell safeguarded its occupants, the car losing just over one point in the frontal and side impacts.

The restraint systems included dual stage airbags, front belt pre-tensioners and adaptive load limiters and seatmounted side airbags. An intelligent belt reminder system is fitted for all seating positions.

The protection it gave to child occupants was good. Protection for pedestrians was also reasonably good, gaining 17 points out of a possible 36.

Frontal Impact The body suffered minimal deformation and the driver’s door could be opened almost normally after the impact. The footwell suffered only minor intrusion and movement of the foot pedals was well controlled.

The dual-stage frontal airbags, belt pre-tensioners and load limiters restricted forward movement of the front occupants and there was much effort put into designing the A-class to safeguard their knees and upper legs. The dummy’s instrumentation recorded low values during the crash test.

Side Impact The protection system included seat mounted head and thorax airbags, which worked with the structure to keep readings from the dummies low. The A-class gained full marks in the side and pole impact tests.

Child Protection A two-language text label warned against placing a child in a rear facing restraint opposite an active airbag. These were fitted to both sides of the passenger’s sun visor but could easily be peeled off.

The older child sat in a Mercedes-branded Britax Romer Duo Plus restraint fitted forward facing using the car’s ISOFIX mounting points and top tethers. The younger child’s restraint was a rear facing Britax Romer BabySafe Plus fitted using the adult belts. Both were protected throughout.

Pedestrian Protection The car gave reasonable protection overall. The bumper met test requirements, while the bonnet top provided some cushioning in the areas where an adult’s or child’s head might most likely strike it. The bonnet’s leading edge also offered some degree of safeguard to pedestrians.

Model History & Safety Equipment of Car Tested The latest A-class comes with dual frontal airbags, side airbags (head and thorax), front and rear outer belts with pre-tensioners, front belts also with load limiters, ISOFIX anchorages and top tethers to rear seats, belt reminders for all seats, ABS, BAS and ESP as standard.



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Šį pranešimą redagavo maddox: 19 liepos 2006 - 11:50
Man ši mašinytė visai patinka thumbup.gif aišku turint tokią mašiną, reikia šeimai turėti dar vieną, didesnę, kad būtų įmanoma keliuti. Bet va šiaip kasdien važinėt- į darbą pvz., tai labai patogu ir taupu thumbup.gif
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Ieskojau temos apie butent situos vienturius, bet atrodo kad nera...
Gal kazkas toki vairuoja ir galetu pasidalinti ziniomis ir pastebejimais...

Ypac mane domintu pusiau automatai - tokie kuriems sankabos trūksta tongue.gif

Atrodo jie visaip taip va panašiai

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QUOTE(Duti @ 2006 12 06, 20:56)
Ieskojau temos apie butent situos vienturius, bet atrodo kad nera...
Gal kazkas toki vairuoja ir galetu pasidalinti ziniomis ir pastebejimais...

Ypac mane domintu pusiau automatai - tokie kuriems sankabos trūksta  tongue.gif

Atrodo jie visaip taip va panašiai

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Super mašiniukas, kaifuoju. Mersas ir Afrikoj mersas. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Žydrė @ 2006 12 07, 15:34)
Super mašiniukas, kaifuoju. Mersas ir Afrikoj mersas. biggrin.gif


ar turi ir kaifuoji ar neturi ir kaifuoji? g.gif
jei turi - tai reiktu platesniu komentaru - kas, kaip, kiek...remondai, detales, gedimai, kainos, benzinas, trauka, variklis, etc..... blush2.gif
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QUOTE(Duti @ 2006 12 07, 17:10)
ar turi ir kaifuoji ar neturi ir kaifuoji? g.gif
jei turi - tai reiktu platesniu komentaru - kas, kaip, kiek...remondai, detales, gedimai, kainos, benzinas, trauka, variklis, etc..... blush2.gif

Turiu smile.gif Remontuot kol kas neteko, benzo daug nevalgo, jei nesidraskai, mažas gi automobiliukas, ir galingumas ne kažin koks, tai kas ten...(A140). Gedimų per pusę metų jokių neišlindo, važiuoju be vargo tuo klausimu.
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kiek tas "daug nevalgo"
apytiksliai bent jau
o mechanine, pusiau automatine, ar automatine?

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QUOTE(Duti @ 2006 12 07, 17:50)
kiek tas "daug nevalgo"
apytiksliai bent jau
o mechanine, pusiau automatine, ar automatine?

Važinėju su au automatu, suvalgo apie 9L. Bet važiuojam mudvi mieste, ir piko metu. Čia ne užmiesčio rėžimu.
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Siaip buvo tokia tema uzvesta, pasiieskok ten issamiau aprasyta cool.gif .
Beja mano mama turi, truputi ir as vazinejau, (nelegaliai biggrin.gif , kaimo keliais) visai nieko kai keleivis esi. Bet kaip vairuotojas tai man priekinio stiklo kaires remas per daug issikises, uzstoja vaizda, tai kai nori pasukt i kaire reikia labai i desine pasilenkt, kad matytum kur vaziuoji biggrin.gif.
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Mistika...
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