We have different price politics in PHTV. 0,50 /kWh was 3-5 years before. Now it is less, I don“t know... But it is lower than total price for customers in single tarif.
High buy-out prices are only for large installations, 10 kW and up. I don“t understand to these abnormal laws. Our newest law doesn“t support small instalations (which is good for el. system), but supports those large ones which bring problems with regulation and make electricity too expensive. I don“t say "well done" on PHTV fields... the investors are from abroad... and our money flows abroad...
I am against subsidies in this form.
We are going to buy PHTV panels without state subsidy, bonus or purchase price. Everything I do or buy, I do and buy therefore it is based on market and it is effective. With our PHTV panel so, too: Their price is 0,9 incl VAT/Wp. 1500 Wp (together) is 1350 . Plus 2 cables 20 . Construction will be as shading above south windows... should I count constrction, too? Panels save 200 per year. Term of return of money for panels is 7 years.
I wanted liquid system (solar panels, pipes...) but it was hard get the price for all system under 1300 . This PHTV system seems very simple for me...
Small wind turbine - of course, I wanted... we have it in project. But this isn“t economic way. I must wait for lower prices.
The floor heating - I don“t think it“s a mistake. I didn“t want heating and ventilation together. If it is simple, classical system, the air becomes too dry. And if the unit includes humidification, price and service is too expensive. E.g. Paul - ventilation.
I see conflict here: heating is neccesary in the night, ventilation during the day (mainly).
Some recup. units have special cycle for heating - if ventilation isn“t necessary, they only heat. The air isn“t going through the bathroom away but is flowed out in the hall, goes into the unit, is heated and goes again to the rooms. Not ideal, I know. The price of this unit is 3000-3500 .
I have never seen a simple liquid-to-air exchanger... in Czech or Slovak rep.
I know that floor won“t be warm. Our heating water“s temperature will be 31-32°C. Temperature of the floor about 24°C. Heating will go on 2-3 times a day. We are not the ones who has this.
QUOTE(Vilienė @ 2012 08 18, 15:34)
WOW PV for DHW! The grid would pay nearly 0.50EUR/kWh made by PV in Lithuania, I would say not the cheapest way to heat the domestic water
The only advantage I see is the energy vaste from the PV panel and the electrical heater in the boiler - that is definatelly more eficient that vacuum type of
sun collector we used to use for DHW.
What about the price of the system? How much is the PV panels for the family of 4 water demands? I do travel though Slovakia time to time, I have noticed a big increase in PV fields, can say "well done"
What about wind power? That is a bit cheaper to install, do you use wind power for DHW as well?
Papildyta:
Jarka, I think you have done the same mistake like me
The floor heating in passive house is just a money waisting. A small one level house living two with heated floor of 83m2 has used ~380m3 of gas last winter, from 07/10 to 01/04, that including the DHW (asistance to vacuum collector). I can not remember even one day when I stood on that floor and could enjoy the heat, the warm of it - the temperature has been very close to the air temperature in the house.
I think the best way of pasive house heating is a post heater in the ventilation system, just a simple liquid-to-air exchanger or electrical air heater in the supply duct. Cheap and fast to install, can be fed by any sourse of energy. I bet that would much cheaper to install than the pipes in your and my floor.
Papildyta:
Is it able, to make "LIKE" on any post? I don“t want send extra posts with "I agree". Thank you.