QUOTE(elipse @ 2007 04 18, 16:05)
girdejau, kad skausminga. bet, manau, labai priklauso nuo jautrumo lygio.
as girdejau kad fotodepiliacija neskausminga, ar cia ne tas pats? 
QUOTE(elipse @ 2007 04 18, 16:40)
na, nesu as profe, bet speju, tai yra skirtingi dalykai
KAS SKAITOT ANGLISKAI
Is Laser Hair Removal Permanent?
Studies show that the best-known method of achieving permanent hair removal is Laser Hair Removal, and if the procedure is performed correctly (using the right equipment), permanency is definitely possible. That's because laser hair removal actually kills the hair follicle, which impairs it's ability to grow. But you need to get the hair at the right stage in the growth cycle to ensure permanent hair removal, which means that you will need to undergo a number of treatments.
You see, hair grows in 3 stages, and Laser treatment in the first growth stage (Anagen stage) is the best for permanent reduction. Laser treatment in the other 2 stages (Categen and Telogen) can be less effective, because in these stages new hairs are being formed which may not be target-able by the Laser. So for permanency you will need to undergo a number of laser treatments over time to kill all the hair follicles in that region.
Which Growth Stage is Best for Permanent Hair Removal ? Anagen stage
Everyone's hair grows differently, depending on their age, weight, metabolism, hormonal interactions, genetics, medications and environmental influences. Irrespective of this, hair grows in a cycle which has 3 distinct stages, and the ability of the Laser to target and destroy the hair follicle actually depends on the stage of the hair in the growth cycle. That is because the Lasers used in hair removal actually target the pigment in the hair to zero in on the hair follicle. In the initial growth stage of hair, there is more pigment in the hair, thus the Laser is more effective.
Papildyta:
Following is an overview of the 3 different hair growth cycle stages, and how effective laser treatment is in each of these stages:
The ACTIVE or ANAGEN growth phase (lasts 2-6 years), comprises approximately 85 % of our body hair at any given moment in time. During this ANAGEN phase, the hair shaft and follicle has an abundance of pigment and is most sensitive to the laser light. So in this stage, permanent hair removal is very likely. The Laser will destroy the hair follicle and no new hair will grow.
The REGRESSIVE or CATAGEN phase (lasts 1-2 weeks) is the period during which the hair stops actively growing but is not shed. This phase often lasts several weeks comprising about 3 - 4% of our total body hair at any given time. In the early part of this stage, you can expect the same results as in the ANAGEN stage. But later in this stage, a new hair might already be forming, and because it will have no pigment yet, it wont be destroyed.
The RESTING or TELOGEN phase lasts 5 - 6 weeks, at the end of which the hair falls out and a new hair begins to form. Approximately 10-13% of our body hair is in this phase at any one time. Again, the new hair will not have any pigment and the laser will not be able to target it. This new hair will shortly enter the ANAGEN stage, and if it is exposed to a Laser treatment when it has entered the ANAGEN stage, then permanency can be expected.
In summary, each hair on your body will naturally be at a different part of the growth cycle, and that is why it will be necessary in most cases to undergo a number of Laser hair Removal treatments at varying intervals to completely destroy all hair follicles in the region you are targeting. You might be lucky and destroy more than 85% of the hair follicles in the target region with just one treatment, but the statistics point towards needing at least 2 treatments (possibly 3 or more) to totally destroy all hair follicles in any part of the body.
Is Laser Hair Removal Permanent?
Studies show that the best-known method of achieving permanent hair removal is Laser Hair Removal, and if the procedure is performed correctly (using the right equipment), permanency is definitely possible. That's because laser hair removal actually kills the hair follicle, which impairs it's ability to grow. But you need to get the hair at the right stage in the growth cycle to ensure permanent hair removal, which means that you will need to undergo a number of treatments.
You see, hair grows in 3 stages, and Laser treatment in the first growth stage (Anagen stage) is the best for permanent reduction. Laser treatment in the other 2 stages (Categen and Telogen) can be less effective, because in these stages new hairs are being formed which may not be target-able by the Laser. So for permanency you will need to undergo a number of laser treatments over time to kill all the hair follicles in that region.
Which Growth Stage is Best for Permanent Hair Removal ? Anagen stage
Everyone's hair grows differently, depending on their age, weight, metabolism, hormonal interactions, genetics, medications and environmental influences. Irrespective of this, hair grows in a cycle which has 3 distinct stages, and the ability of the Laser to target and destroy the hair follicle actually depends on the stage of the hair in the growth cycle. That is because the Lasers used in hair removal actually target the pigment in the hair to zero in on the hair follicle. In the initial growth stage of hair, there is more pigment in the hair, thus the Laser is more effective.
Papildyta:
Following is an overview of the 3 different hair growth cycle stages, and how effective laser treatment is in each of these stages:
The ACTIVE or ANAGEN growth phase (lasts 2-6 years), comprises approximately 85 % of our body hair at any given moment in time. During this ANAGEN phase, the hair shaft and follicle has an abundance of pigment and is most sensitive to the laser light. So in this stage, permanent hair removal is very likely. The Laser will destroy the hair follicle and no new hair will grow.
The REGRESSIVE or CATAGEN phase (lasts 1-2 weeks) is the period during which the hair stops actively growing but is not shed. This phase often lasts several weeks comprising about 3 - 4% of our total body hair at any given time. In the early part of this stage, you can expect the same results as in the ANAGEN stage. But later in this stage, a new hair might already be forming, and because it will have no pigment yet, it wont be destroyed.
The RESTING or TELOGEN phase lasts 5 - 6 weeks, at the end of which the hair falls out and a new hair begins to form. Approximately 10-13% of our body hair is in this phase at any one time. Again, the new hair will not have any pigment and the laser will not be able to target it. This new hair will shortly enter the ANAGEN stage, and if it is exposed to a Laser treatment when it has entered the ANAGEN stage, then permanency can be expected.
In summary, each hair on your body will naturally be at a different part of the growth cycle, and that is why it will be necessary in most cases to undergo a number of Laser hair Removal treatments at varying intervals to completely destroy all hair follicles in the region you are targeting. You might be lucky and destroy more than 85% of the hair follicles in the target region with just one treatment, but the statistics point towards needing at least 2 treatments (possibly 3 or more) to totally destroy all hair follicles in any part of the body.
Šiaip, U.S. Food and Drug Association yra uždraudusi skelbti, kad plaukų šalinimas lazeriu užtikrina "permanent removal", o tik "permanent reduction". Kas reiškia, kad pašalinimas visam laikui neįmanomas, tik plaukų kiekio stabilus sumažinimas. O tas stabilus sumažinimas reiškia, kad plaukai ataugti gali tik po pilno jų augimo ciklo, t.y. nuo 4 mėnesių iki poros metų, priklausomai nuo kūno vietos ir individualių žmogaus organizmo savybių. Taigi dažnai klientas yra dezinformuojamas arba daug faktų nuslepiama. O kad plauko folikulas yra sunaikinamas irgi nenorėčiau tikėti, dažniausiai jis yra apgadinamas, todėl didelė tikimybė, kad po kurio laiko plaukas vėl ataugs. Žinoma, dalis plaukų folikulų gali būti panaikinti, jei procedūra atliakama teisingai, tačiau tai vis tiek neužtikrina ilgalaikio efekto. Gaila. Teks laukti naujesnių technologijų, arba kad proedūras su lazeriu atliekantys specialistai prisiimtų bent minimalią atsakomybę už efektą.
QUOTE(Vavidvake @ 2007 04 19, 08:27)
O idomu, kas nors bande tuos lazerinius epiliatorius? Radau ebay.com visai nebrangiu palyginus su skelbtomis kainomis sugiharoj.
Kažkur mačiau atsiliepimus pirkusios. Tai minėjo, kad nieko gero, jokio rezultato. Bet čia individualu, turbūt. Gal nors kelis pašalintų tuos plaukelius. Kažkada ir aš labai viliojausi susimest su kuo nors ir nusipirkt jį. Bet kol patikimų atsiliepimų negirdėjau, pinigų išmest nesinori. Būtų tikras stebuklas, jei veiksmingas nors kiek.
QUOTE(himalaia @ 2007 04 19, 08:35)
Kažkur mačiau atsiliepimus pirkusios. Tai minėjo, kad nieko gero, jokio rezultato. Bet čia individualu, turbūt. Gal nors kelis pašalintų tuos plaukelius. Kažkada ir aš labai viliojausi susimest su kuo nors ir nusipirkt jį. Bet kol patikimų atsiliepimų negirdėjau, pinigų išmest nesinori. Būtų tikras stebuklas, jei veiksmingas nors kiek.
jo, as irgi skaiciau atsiliepimus, bet ten mergina skundesi, kad tu buitiniu tik po viena plaukeli saudo tas lazeris. o tuose, kur radau, kaip tik akcentuoja, kad paveikiamas daug didesnis plotas nei epiliuojant kitais budais...
ir dar man keista, jie raso, po epiliacijos plaukai arba patis iskris, arba juos reikes pincetu isimt, idomiai kojos turetu atrodyt su nuolat bekrintanciais plaukais
QUOTE(Vavidvake @ 2007 04 19, 08:38)
jo, as irgi skaiciau atsiliepimus, bet ten mergina skundesi, kad tu buitiniu tik po viena plaukeli saudo tas lazeris. o tuose, kur radau, kaip tik akcentuoja, kad paveikiamas daug didesnis plotas nei epiliuojant kitais budais...
ir dar man keista, jie raso, po epiliacijos plaukai arba patis iskris, arba juos reikes pincetu isimt, idomiai kojos turetu atrodyt su nuolat bekrintanciais plaukais
ir dar man keista, jie raso, po epiliacijos plaukai arba patis iskris, arba juos reikes pincetu isimt, idomiai kojos turetu atrodyt su nuolat bekrintanciais plaukais
Man tai kad ir po vieną plaukelį, bet jei tas vienas sėkmingai pasišalina, knisčiausi sėkmingai iki pergalės
Vis tiek su pincetu tenka bikini karts nuo karto ravėt, tai koks skirtumas. O nuo kojų jau daugiau laiko užimtų, bet jei tikrai vaiksminga, manau, vertėtų laiką gaišt.
sveikutes,na turiu ir as problema su plaukais.turiu usiukus ir jau senei noriu issinaikint juos bet kai pasiskaitau apie nuomuones tai baisu daros,noreciau vietoj lazerio darytis su fotodepiliacija bet klaipedoje jos nera turiu juodus usiukus netokie jie pastebimi bet nervuoja jie mane jauciu kompleksa del ju,tad vis noriu issinaikinti bet bijau vieno kad nebutu taip kad is vos matomu jie nepasidarytu kaip pas vyra,tada tai grazu butu,o su lazeriu prisiskaiciau tiek kad net baisu,o planavau kaip tik daryt su lazeriu medison kaskaip vadinasi
nzn, mano kosmetologe buvo issinuomavusi ta aparaciuka fotodepiliacijai. ji man teige, kad skirtumas su lazeriu didziulis, foto skausmingiau ir ne taip efektyvu. kai uzsiminiau, kad noriu pabandyti foto, patare rinktis lazeri. bet kiek zmoniu, tiek nuomoniu. ir cia as kazkaip nieko baisaus neradau siame forume, kad persigalvociau. is tikruju patyrusiu cia l.mazai.
QUOTE(Vavidvake @ 2007 04 19, 21:25)
nzn, mano kosmetologe buvo issinuomavusi ta aparaciuka fotodepiliacijai. ji man teige, kad skirtumas su lazeriu didziulis, foto skausmingiau ir ne taip efektyvu. kai uzsiminiau, kad noriu pabandyti foto, patare rinktis lazeri. bet kiek zmoniu, tiek nuomoniu. ir cia as kazkaip nieko baisaus neradau siame forume, kad persigalvociau. is tikruju patyrusiu cia l.mazai.
na as kiek jau prisiskaiciau nete,tai su foto tipo beveik plaukai neatauga yra pigiau ir tik minusas kad skausminga,su lazeriu dazniau atauga o as nenoriu kad atauktu,ir isvis as kiek paziurejau yra ir elektroepiliacija ir fotodepiliacija ir fotoepiliacija,kuom jos skiriasi isvis.as va skaiciau apie elektroepiliacija ir noreciau ja pabandyt neatauga plaukai panaikinamas visas svogunelis bet kodel yaip pigiai kainuoja nesuprantu?
