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Na bet tikrai kaip kokiuose DURNIU NAMUOSE cia su tais istatymu kaitaliojimais,o paskui aiskina ,kad lietuviai bega is LT doh.gif Kaip ziuriu vyriausybiai svarbiausia iseiginiu pasidaryti kuo daugiau pijokavimo labui labiau rupi,negu zmoniu labas.
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Mes pridaveme dokumentus vaiko LR pilietybei gauti lapkricio 1d, tai dabar tikriausiai ir mes kabome ant plauko verysad.gif
Taip tu lietuviu maza liko Lietuvoje - dabar nori visai sienomis apsistatyti blink.gif
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o kaip atrodo tas JAV pilietybes atsisakymo dokumentas ir kur ji gauti g.gif , yra kaz kokios oficialios formos?
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[B]Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship[/B]

A. THE IMMIGRATION & NATIONALITY ACT

Section 349(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) is the section of law that governs the ability of a United States citizen to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. That section of law provides for the loss of nationality by voluntarily performing the following act with the intent to relinquish his or her U.S. nationality:

"(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state , in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State" (emphasis added).


B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION

A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
sign an oath of renunciation

Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal effect. Because of the provisions of section 349(a)(5), Americans cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States. In fact, U.S. courts have held certain attempts to renounce U.S. citizenship to be ineffective on a variety of grounds, as discussed below.

C. REQUIREMENT - RENOUNCE ALL RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES

In the recent case of Colon v. U.S. Department of State , 2 F.Supp.2d 43 (1998), plaintiff was a United States citizen and resident of Puerto Rico, who executed an oath of renunciation before a consular officer at the U.S. Embassy in Santo Domingo. The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia rejected Colon’s petition for a writ of mandamus directing the Secretary of State to approve a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in the case because the plaintiff wanted to retain one of the primary benefits of U.S. citizenship while claiming he was not a U.S. citizen. The Court described the plaintiff as a person, "claiming to renounce all rights and privileges of United States citizenship, [while] Plaintiff wants to continue to exercise one of the fundamental rights of citizenship, namely to travel freely throughout the world and when he wants to, return and reside in the United States." See also Jose Fufi Santori v. United States of America , 1994 U.S. App. LEXIS 16299 (1994) for a similar case.

A person who wants to renounce U.S. citizenship cannot decide to retain some of the privileges of citizenship, as this would be logically inconsistent with the concept of citizenship. Thus, such a person can be said to lack a full understanding of renouncing citizenship and/or lack the necessary intent to renounce citizenship, and the Department of State will not approve a loss of citizenship in such instances.

D. DUAL NATIONALITY / STATELESSNESS

Persons intending to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware that, unless they already possess a foreign nationality, they may be rendered stateless and, thus, lack the protection of any government. They may also have difficulty traveling as they may not be entitled to a passport from any country. Even if they were not stateless, they would still be required to obtain a visa to travel to the United States, or show that they are eligible for admission pursuant to the terms of the Visa Waiver Pilot Program (VWPP). If found ineligible for a visa or the VWPP to come to the U.S., a renunciant, under certain circumstances, could be permanently barred from entering the United States. Nonetheless, renunciation of U.S. citizenship may not prevent a foreign country from deporting that individual back to the United States in some non-citizen status.

E. TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS /NO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION

Also, persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should also be aware that the fact that a person has renounced U.S. citizenship may have no effect whatsoever on his or her U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship will not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed in the United States, or escape the repayment of financial obligations previously incurred in the United States.

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship. United States common law establishes an arbitrary limit of age fourteen under which a child’s understanding must be established by substantial evidence.

G. IRREVOCABILITY OF RENUNCIATION

Finally, those contemplating a renunciation of U.S. citizenship should understand that the act is irrevocable, except as provided in section 351 of the INA, and cannot be canceled or set aside absent successful administrative or judicial appeal. (Section 351(cool.gif of the INA provides that an applicant who renounced his or her U.S. citizenship before the age of eighteen can have that citizenship reinstated if he or she makes that desire known to the Department of State within six months after attaining the age of eighteen. See also Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations, section 50.20).

Renunciation is the most unequivocal way in which a person can manifest an intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Please consider the effects of renouncing U.S. citizenship, described above, before taking this serious and irrevocable action. If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please contact the Director, Office of Policy Review & Interagency Liaison, Bureau of Consular Affairs, U.S. Department of State, Washington, DC 20520.

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F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship. United States common law establishes an arbitrary limit of age fourteen under which a child’s understanding must be established by substantial evidence.


Kaip aš suprantu, mano metinukas negalės atsisakyti Jav pilietybės iki tam tikro amžiaus, tai reiškias iki to laiko turės prasitęsinėti buvimą LT? doh.gif
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Taip jau iseina... verysad.gif
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QUOTE(izadora @ 2006 11 24, 12:38)
Taip jau iseina...  verysad.gif

lotuliukas.gif lotuliukas.gif lotuliukas.gif Atleiskit visi, bet suėmė isteriškas juokas. doh.gif

Klausykit, gal nuskambės utopiškai, bet gal suorganizuot kokią peticiją su užsienio lietuvių parašais ir nusiųst ją Prezidentui, Migracijos departamentui, Seimui ir kitoms atsakingoms institucijoms dėl tokio absurdo? unsure.gif
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Šį pranešimą redagavo Ode: 24 lapkričio 2006 - 21:06
QUOTE(Ericia @ 2006 11 23, 16:46)
Taip tu lietuviu maza liko Lietuvoje - dabar nori visai sienomis apsistatyti  blink.gif


Nu pritariu 100% - atrodo, kad lietuviu panashiai kaip kokiu kinieciu stupid.gif Tegul tik dziaugiasi, kad ishvykeliai stengiasi palaikyti lietuvybe kaip kas gali.. O dabar fool.gif

Mamia, tikrai kad - svarbu kuo daugiau isheiginiu, dar papildomu isheiginiu po isheiginiu, kad ishsipagirioti alc.gif Durniu laivas wacko.gif


Ode, organizuok, pasirashau is karto topsecret.gif
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Šį pranešimą redagavo MAMA2T&T: 24 lapkričio 2006 - 21:29
QUOTE(Ode @ 2006 11 24, 11:54)

Klausykit, gal nuskambės utopiškai, bet gal suorganizuot kokią peticiją su užsienio lietuvių parašais ir nusiųst ją Prezidentui, Migracijos departamentui, Seimui ir kitoms atsakingoms institucijoms dėl tokio absurdo?  unsure.gif

as tik uz 4u.gif
jau tokiu jie absurdu ten prisigalvoja, bet cia tai man atrodo jau gerokai perzenge ribas. tik vakar jie dalino pilietybes i kaire desine visiems norintiems (vazineti po Europa be vizu doh.gif ) ne lietuviams, o dabar spiria lietuvius lauk doh.gif
Tikiuosi, kai sitas nesamoningas sprendimas tikrai issauks kazkokia reakcija doh.gif

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Tai kad net ne dviguboj pilietybėj esmė. O tame, kad JEI norėtumėm atsisakyti vaiko JAV pilietybės, kad likt LT, to negalėsim artimiausius 13 metų padaryti... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Ode @ 2006 11 24, 13:54)
lotuliukas.gif  lotuliukas.gif  lotuliukas.gif Atleiskit visi, bet suėmė isteriškas juokas.  doh.gif

Klausykit, gal nuskambės utopiškai, bet gal suorganizuot kokią peticiją su užsienio lietuvių parašais ir nusiųst ją Prezidentui, Migracijos departamentui, Seimui ir kitoms atsakingoms institucijoms dėl tokio absurdo?  unsure.gif



cia ABSURDAS , tai kaip turi but schmoll.gif mane irgi paeme isterishkas juokas, o jei rimtai, tai ir mes galvojam apie toki veiksma, kaip organizuot kokia peticija g.gif nes zmones ir taip jau bega is LT, tai istatymu leidejai ryshkiai nori ne tik, kad ju nesusigrazinti, bet, kad jie net i ta puse nziuretu blink.gif tai jei as nemyliu, ar net nekenciu savo Tevynes (vien del valdzios ir visokiu ju nesamoniu) , tai kaip mano vaikis nores ten vaziuoti, bent aplanktyti tevu zemes doh.gif
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QUOTE(Ode @ 2006 11 24, 14:54)
lotuliukas.gif  lotuliukas.gif  lotuliukas.gif Atleiskit visi, bet suėmė isteriškas juokas.  doh.gif

Klausykit, gal nuskambės utopiškai, bet gal suorganizuot kokią peticiją su užsienio lietuvių parašais ir nusiųst ją Prezidentui, Migracijos departamentui, Seimui ir kitoms atsakingoms institucijoms dėl tokio absurdo?  unsure.gif


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Idomu, kaip toki absurda pakomentuotu konsulato atstovai g.gif
Susimasciau: jei visdelto griztu su vaiku i LT, jis JAV pilietis, tai , kaip suprantu nemokama medicina jam nepriklauso. O kaip su mokykla? Ar uz m-kla irgi reiketu moketi? Kaip pagalvoji griztu, dirbu LT, moku mokecius o mano vaikui nieks nepriklauso doh.gif
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